Hirneise: What is your fundamental research?
Dr Johanna Budwig: In 1950,
I developed Paper Chromatography of fats.
With this technique for first time fats,
fatty acids and lipoproteins could be detected
directly even in 0.1 ml of blood. Using
Co 60 I was successful in producing the
first differential reaction for fatty acids,
and via radioiodine producing the first
direct iodine value. I also developed control
of atmosphere in closed system by using
gas systems which act as antioxidants. Coloring,
separating effects of fats and fatty acids
were further developed. Behavior was studied
in blue light, red light with fluorescent
I studied the electrical behavior of the
unsaturated fatty acids with their "halo"
using dyes with rhodamine red. With this
technique I proved that electron rich highly
unsaturated Linoleic and Linolenic fatty
acids (found abundantly in flax oil) are
the undiscovered decisive fats in respiratory
enzyme function that Otto Warburg could
not find. I studied the electromotoric function
of pi-electrons of the linolenic acid in
the cell membranes, for all nerve function,
secretions, mitosis, as well as cell breakdown.
I also examined the synergism of the sulfur
containing protein with the Pi-electrons
of the highly unsaturated fatty acids and
their significance for the formation of
the hydrogen bridge between fat and protein,
which represent "the only path"
for fast and focused transport of electrons
This immediately caused a furor. Cancer
problem was brought in. Hydrogenated fats,
which includes all Trans fatty acids proved
to be respiratory poisons. This was extensively
published in 1950 in many journals including
"New Directions in Fat Research."
Lothar Hirneise: What is the prime
cause of Cancer?
Dr Johanna Budwig: In 1928
Dr. Otto Warburg proved that all normal
cells have an absolute requirement for oxygen,
but cancer cells can live without oxygen
- a rule without exception. Deprive a cell
35% of its oxygen for 48 hours and it may
become cancerous. Dr. Otto Warburg has made
it clear that the root cause of cancer is
oxygen deficiency in the cells, which creates
an acidic state in the human body.
He also discovered that cancer cells are
anaerobic (do not breathe oxygen), get the
energy by fermenting glucose producing lactic
acid and cannot survive in the presence
of high levels of oxygen. Long back in 1911
Swedish scientist Torsten Thunberg postulated
that sulfur containing protein (found in
cottage cheese) and some unknown fat is
required to attract oxygen in the cell.
This fat plays a major role in the cellular
respiration. For nearly half century scientists
were trying to identify this unknown and
mysterious fat but nobody succeeded.
Lothar Hirneise: How did you develop
cancer therapy which is called Budwig Protocol?
Dr Johanna Budwig: During
my research I found that the blood of seriously
ill cancer patients was deficient in these
unsaturated omega-3 fats (Linoleic and Linolenic
fatty acids), lipoproteins, phosphatides,
and hemoglobin. In addition, I noticed that
cancer patients had a strange greenish-yellow
substance in their blood that I could not
find in the blood of healthy people. Then
I wanted to develop healing program for
So I decided to straight waygo for human
trials and started to give flax oil and
cottage cheese to the cancer patients from
four big hospitals in Münster. After
just three months, patients began to improve
in health and strength, the yellow green
substance in their blood began to disappear,
tumors gradually receded and at the same
time as the nutrients began to rise. Thus
I had a cure for cancer. It was a great
victory and the first milestone in the battle
against cancer. My treatment is based on
the consumption of flax seed oil with low
fat cottage cheese, raw organic diet, detoxification,
mild exercise, flax oil massage and the
healing powers of the sun. I have treated
approx. 2500 cancer patients during last
few decades. Prof. Halme of surgery clinic
in Helsinki used to keep records of my patients.
According to him my success was over 90%
and this was achieved in cases where allopathy
Lothar Hirneise: Can you tell us
more about the unsaturated fatty acids and
their net-like connections?
Dr. Johanna Budwig: Fatty
acid is a carboxylic acid having unbranched
chain of 4 to 28 carbons. The saturated
fatty acids have primarily short carbon
chains. In butter, coconut fat, goat fat
and sheep fat the fatty acids consists of
4, 6, 8, 10 or 12 carbons, are saturated,
however they are also easily co-combustible
if the essential fatty acids are present.
The unsaturated vital fatty acids really
start with the chain with 18 carbon compounds.
There are also fatty acids with up to 30
links. Fatty acids with 18 links, like in
flax oil with the higher level of unsaturation,
are more important for human, particularly
for the brain functions of man. Linoleic
acid rich in electrons is considered vital.
There is a particularly high amount of energy
in this double double bond of the linoleic
This energy wanders and is not fixed in
place as it is with a chemical compound,
such as with table salt. This energy, wandering
between electrons and the positively charged
protein with sulfur groups is an alternating
association process in the electromagnetic
field. This is very important. Perhaps you
are familiar with the painting of Michelangelo,
where God creates Adam (two fingers pointing
to each other, however they do not touch).
This is quantum physics, the fingers do
not touch. The physicists who I know, Max
Planck, or Albert Einstein, or Dessauer
all represent the view that man is created
by God in His image. You see in being together
as human beings there is certainly also
a connection without directly touching the
other person. The dipolarity with a single
double bond in olive oil is weaker than
it is in sunflower seed oil, which is has
two double bonds. This double double bond
is considered to be vital for man. However
if the same chain length of 18 carbons has
three unsaturated fatty acid compounds,
then the electrical energy is as strong
as a magnet. This electronic energy is negatively
charged. The positively charged sulfur groups
of the protein adhere in the unsaturated
bonds where the electrons are and that is
where they insert their sulfur-containing
This produces the lipoproteins. The life
process is sustained in the interplay between
the positively-charged particles and negatively-charged
particles. In this process there is no connection,
and this is our life element. If radical
damage occurs at this point through fatty
acids that has lost electron energy, but
rather are cross-linked like a net, then
the dipolarity can no longer work actively
in this net. This is the deadly effect of
radicals, because instead of the chains
with the electron clouds they interlace
a net without electron clouds, indeed with
unsaturated bonds, but without dipolarity.
I quickly knew that the triple unsaturated
fatty acids, which were called linolenic
acid, and which no one had isolated before
me, had 18 links and that they did not always
carry their double bonds at the same point.
They have such a strong electronic energy
compared to the heavier matter in the 18-link
fatty acid chains, that biologically this
energy is far greater than it is with the
next arachidonic acid with 20 links. The
highest electron collection is with the
combination of linoleic-linolenic fatty
acids in flax oil. The linolenic acid as
conjugated (interaction of neighboring double
bonds in the molecule that are separated
by a single bond) fatty acid is even more
effective and is even more strongly interplay
with linoleic acid as it is present in the
flax oil for oxygen absorption. This was
relatively easy for me to verify in my experiments.
I would like to emphasize this. The combination
of double unsaturated linoleic acid with
triple unsaturated linolenic acid is particularly
well-combined in flaxseed.
Lothar Hirneise: Is it this energy
that heals cancer?
Dr. Johanna Budwig: Yes, this energy
is now movable and it is easily released.
It is precisely this energy that heals cancer,
or does not even allow it to occur. If this
vital element is present then no tumor can
exist. This vital element is a deciding
factor in the immune system. There is no
effective factor in the immune system other
than the essential fatty acids.
Lothar Hirneise: What is an electron
Dr Johanna Budwig: If the enhancement
of electronic energy is always higher through
absorption of sun photons in the unsaturated
fatty acids e.g. in linolenic fatty acids,
then the power of the electrons is so high
in the dipolarity in between gravity and
electrons, that they lifts off of the heavy
mass and floats like a cloud hence I called
them electron cloud.
Lothar Hirneise: What is the significance
of the cloud?
Dr. Johanna Budwig: No life form
has as much energy to store the electrons
and photons as does man. The electronic
energy stored particularly in the vital,
highly unsaturated fatty acids, is very
strong life element for man. Man cannot
live without them. If oils are treated with
heat and harsh chemicals (during refining
and hydrogenation process to increase their
shelf life) then the wealth of vital electronic
energy is destroyed and Trans fats are formed
with net like connections. They are no longer
vital fats with 18 links, but rather they
form cross-links between the fatty acids
like a large net, and are highly damaging
to our body, do not adhare with proteins,
do not attract oxygen and act like a radicals.
I repeat because it is so important: I have
detected particles in oils treated with
steam, which indeed have a positive iodine
value, but which are highly toxic for man.
Lothar Hirneise: So you preach against
these toxic hydrogenated and refined oils?
Dr. Johanna Budwig: I am completely
against using these "pseudo" fats
- "hydrogenated", "partially
hydrogenated". These are the biggest
enemy of mankind. I had scientific proofs.
The heart rejects these fats and they are
deposited as inorganic fat on the heart
muscle itself. They end up blocking circulation,
damage heart action, inhibit cell renewal
and impede the free flow of blood and lymph
But it was highly profitable business for
multinationals. When I preached against
these fats, they stood against me, first
they tried to give me hush money and when
I refused they filed many fake court cases
against me. I was working for humanity and
had scientific proof.I was like rock of
Gibraltar in my decision; I fought and won
all the cases ultimately.
Lothar Hirneise: What is mysterious
marriage of sun and moon in terms of quantum
Dr. Johanna Budwig: The photon,
the quantum, is the smallest component of
the sunlight. It is the fastest moving traveler,
it speeds along with time. The photon is
always in motion. Nothing can ever halt
its motion. The photon is full of all colors,
and can change its color and its frequency.
The photon is the purest form of energy,
the purest wave, can unite with a second
photon when it is in resonance with the
other, to form a "short-lived particle."
This particle, known as a p0 particle, can
break up into two photons again, without
mass, as a pure wave in motion. This is
the basis for the wonderful back and forth
movement between light and matter. The photon
can never be pinned down to one location.
This is the foundation for the Theory of
This very active, dynamic and energetic
photon can be captured by electron that
are in resonance with the photon. What does
that mean? Electrons are already a component
of matter. They are also continuously in
motion. They constantly oscillate on their
own wavelength. They have their own frequency,
just like a radio receiver that is set to
a specific wavelength.
The electron loves photons. It attracts
photons by its magnetic field. When an electrical
charge moves, it always produces a magnetic
field. The moving photon also has a magnetic
field. Both fields attract each other when
the wavelengths are in tune. The wave length
of the photon - which the photon can change
- must fit into the wavelength of the orbiting
electron so that the orbit maintains a complete
wavelength. This is eternal love between
sun-god, photons and moon-goddess, electrons,
this is the mysterious marriage of the sun
and moon in terms of modern science.This
feature is extremely interesting in terms
of its physical manifestation, its
biological and even its philosophical consequences.
All matter has its own inherent vibration.
Of course, this also applies to living substances.
The energy which is being absorbed must
correspond to the inherent wavelength.
The sun rays are very much in harmony with
humans. It is no coincidence that we love
the sun. The resonance in our biological
tissue is so strongly tuned to the absorption
of solar energy that there is nothing on
earth that has a higher concentration of
solar energy photons than humans. This enrichment
with solar energy depends strongly on the
“like energy” aspects, a wavelength
that is compatible with humans, and this
is supported when we eat foods that have
electrons with electromagnetic fields that
attract the photons of the sun. An abundance
of these electrons, which are tuned to the
solar energy frequency, exist, in many seed-oils.
Scientifically these oils have even been
designated as electron-rich, "essential,"
highly unsaturated fats. But when we began
processing fats to increase the shelf life,
nobody thought about the significance that
this would have for the survival and the
further development of the human species.
We destroyed their extremely important wealth
of electrons, which are very mobile and
react so wonderfully to sunlight.
Lothar Hirneise: What is the concept
of “human” and “anti-human”
in terms of quantum physics?
Dr. Johanna Budwig: It is interesting
that in the science of quantum physics the
concept of "human" has already
been coined. It is "human", with
the highest accumulation of photons, always
striving toward the future, who possesses
within himself the highest potency of solar
energy on the earth. The physicists project
from mathematical equations that man, with
his wealth of electrons, is directed forwards
future in time.
Using mathematical equations that are valid
in physics, reversing the time quotient
represents the mirror image of man —
the "anti-human," whereas "man"
represents the picture of highest rank in
terms of physics, i.e. directed against
entropy. The "anti-human" is directed
back in time. The "anti-human"
possesses few solar energy photons, in physical
terms electron-poor, directed into the past
— also in his thinking — is
paralyzed in his life functions, lacks energy
and strength because he is missing the electrons
that are in harmony with the sun as "life-element."
The physical processes which are generated
through the use of X-rays, gamma rays, atom
bombs, or cobalt radiation, are pointed
in the same direction as the development
toward the “anti-human,” from
the perspective of physics and mathematics.
The electron structure of the life functions
is destroyed by these rays. According to
the so-called “World Line” and
the Theory of Relativity of modern physics,
time and space are connected together in
It is very interesting to investigate our
food from this perspective. Fats that have
had their electron structure destroyed to
make them keep longerpromote the development
of the “anti-human”and have
a very detrimental effect on the future-directed,
electron-rich human being, according to
the “World Line diagram.” They
disturb the electron exchange within living
tissue because they, like tar, act as insulators
against electrical conductivity, plainly
deaden the life functions at the respective
operative locations, e.g. in organs, and
in growth centers of the body, as well as
throughout the whole body. They also promotes
On the other hand, electron-rich nutrition,
electron-rich highly unsaturated oils,herbs
and fruits which are rich in aromatics and
natural color components that correspond
to the colors of the photon s of sunlight
— all these increase the absorption,
storage and utilization of the sun’s
Lothar Hirneise: What is your view
point about surgery for tumors?
Dr. Johanna Budwig: I am totally
against radiation and chemo; I also reject
hormonal treatment. Surgery must be considered
individually. I am not a proponent of quickly
making artificial anus. Conventional oncology
no longer does justice to the cancer patients.
Hirneise: You also studied medicine at the
age of 47 years.
Dr. Johanna Budwig: (smiling) Yes
handsome! That’s right, my opponents
were accusing me that how can I treat cancer
patient without doctors degree. This thing
pinched me, so in 1955,I joined medical
school in Göttingen. There I was using
my therapy very successfully in various
clinics. I still remember the time I was
working late one night in Göttingen,
a woman came to me, with her small child
whose arm was supposed to be amputated due
to a tumor. I treated her and soon the subject
of amputation was dismissed and the child
quickly did very well.
Because I was still a medical student at
this time, I was summoned to appear before
the Municipal Court due to a petition that
I should be prohibited from studying medicine.
I explained the truth in the court. The
judge rejected the case and said, "You
have done a good job. In my area of jurisdiction
nothing will happen to you. If it does there
will be a scandal in the scientificcommunity."
Lothar Hirneise: What do you recommend
for prevention of cancer?
Dr. Johanna Budwig: Only flax oil
as oil. I reject frozen and preserved meat.
Fresh meat is OK. No frozen food and no
bakery products. Oleolux should be used
as butter. Prepare fruit juices yourself.
Cheese and potatoes are OK. Also the electromagnetic
environment (e.g. microwave and mobile phones
etc.) in which we live is very important.
I reject synthetic textiles and foam mattresses
because they steal lot of forces from you.
A lot of wood in home construction and woolen
or silk carpets are also important. Wear
gemstones, they also have good biological
radiation. The environment and living conditions
must be as biological (organic & natural)
as possible. Regular sleep is very important.